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Juli posted a blog in response to this article an article entitled "Study Shows Overweight Women Have The Most Sex".  This is my addition to that post:

I don't know why it comes as such a shock that voluptuous girls have plenty of fun too.  There are a lot of guys out there who love a curvy woman (Myself included... surprise right?  lol).


The average woman is about 160lbs and between a size 12 and 16... which is considered plus sized now.  How absurd is it that an AVERAGE is now categorized as PLUS?!   Even worse, if you listen to the likes of Tyra Banks a size 8 is now being described as "plus".

 (UPDATE 1/19/2012:  Now it is being reported that size 6!! is being considered plus sized )

It has gotten so ridiculous that Katherine Heigl is considered fat by some and was ridiculed as having "double-chins" in 27 Dresses.  Are you freakin kidding me?!   Seriously, how in the world is Katherine Heigl considered fat?

So, what does a real average woman look like?  Here is a side by side of sizes 8, 12 and 16.

That is a stark contrast with the average model (110lbs and between a size 0 and 3).


Ever since the dawn of the "supermodels” in the late 70s and early 80s our societal perceptions of what an attractive woman looks like has been thrown way off.   So far off in fact that the vast majority of women are now considered "plus sized".


Some would argue that the reason our averages are what they is because we have gotten fatter as a society... but a quick historical look at women through the ages throws that argument out the window:


Mesopotamia, 2nd century BC:


Roman statue:


1700's French art:


Italian Renaissance art:


1500's Spanish art:


1800's French:




About 1900 vintage nude photo:


1962 Marilyn Monroe (still widely considered one of the sexiest women ever... size 12!): 


1970 Playboy cover: 

What do you think?  Don't the women through the ages look an awful lot like today's average woman rather than the ultra thin "idea" that is being pushed on women today?

This obsession with has gotten out of control.  We need to get back to calling the everyday woman average again instead of guilting her into trying to achieve unreachable expectations by calling her "Plus".


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Nov. 4th, 2008 02:43 am (UTC)
The whole thing is so weird. Not even to mention that a size 8 someplace doesn't equal a size 8 someplace else. I know I've posted about that but I have pants sized ten through fifteen that all fit me. WTF. That is dumb.

I liked Renaissance art because the women sort of looked like me but they always had smaller breasts and so even they made me feel inadequate. *SIGH* I am lame.
Nov. 4th, 2008 03:10 pm (UTC)
The amount of pressure on women to be "ideal" is crazy (I'm a guy and I even see it). But the biggest problem is... the ideal portrayed isn't realistic. If the average is 140lbs and size 12-14, how is it right to portray a 0-3 as what you should look like?

There are people that can NEVER reach a 0-3 or 110 lbs, so why make that the "standard"?


Am I misreading this or are you saying that having larger breasts than those portrayed in the art made you feel inadequate?
Nov. 4th, 2008 05:17 pm (UTC)
No, you got it right. They aren't as perky and even when I was thirteen I knew that meant there was something wrong with me.

Heh, if I got down to 140 I'd be a size 8 or maybe even a 6.
Nov. 4th, 2008 05:36 pm (UTC)
You shouldn't feel bad about not being as perky, perky usually equals small.. and most guys would prefer larger. The fact that they're real is an extra bonus. :-P

Nov. 4th, 2008 05:59 pm (UTC)
Heh, well, there is always that. At least they didn't cost anything! Yay for frugality.
Nov. 4th, 2008 10:56 pm (UTC)
LOL This is true.

I really don't like fake breasts.
Nov. 4th, 2008 03:41 am (UTC)
Just to add to the argument... one of my years out at burning man, I was the "fat chick" in my camp.. and I got more action than all the skinny ones combined.

I think I had more to say, but my brain just went stupid.
Nov. 4th, 2008 04:12 pm (UTC)
LOL Stupid brain failures.

How're you doin?
Nov. 4th, 2008 02:47 pm (UTC)
I think this is a corollary to men wanting to date women who drink (studies say NOT drinking on a first date - I don't drink - is a big turnoff to men). Men figure, if a woman overindulges her appetites in one direction, she'll be more likely to do so in bed.
Nov. 4th, 2008 02:48 pm (UTC)
And therefore, since men want heavier women - heavier women get laid more often. Ta-da.
Nov. 4th, 2008 03:41 pm (UTC)
I can tell you that as a guy, I have never had that thought.
Nov. 4th, 2008 10:18 pm (UTC)
Both of your posts are really refreshing! For a period of time there I got real scrawny due to my divorce. (It's a common thing that happens.) I still sorta had curves, but I was on the verge of being too thin. Ray at the time commented that I had nearly lost my butt. He's a butt guy, so I guess that meant he found me less attractive/sexy as a too thin person. Then eventually I gained the weight back and he seemed very pleased that my butt came back! The funny thing is that we women tend to prefer that our butts are smaller, but often men are not so into the buttless look. Not that Ray likes an enormous ass, but an ass that actually exists as opposed to disappearing is a good thing. I've been feeling bad because as someone who has always been considered thin (though a thin person with curves), I recently went slightly over the line to almost being considered "fat", but in reality more like "average". I mean, you might not look at me and instantly think "fat", but you also might not think "really thin" either. Regardless, at the moment I feel fatter than I've been and it's depressing. But, Ray doesn't seem to give a shit. Actually, since he's not exactly thin himself (he has a belly), he always jokes that if I get fat, he'll feel less fat!
Nov. 4th, 2008 10:54 pm (UTC)
You bring up a very good point about perception vs reality. When women are made to feel like they have to be super thin to be attractive, they can end up actually making themselves less attractive to men.

Men for the most part love soft and curvy (which I think the art through the ages shows has always been the case), that is feminine.

It's sad that women are pressured into an unrealistic ideal that can actually turn off the men they are trying to attract.

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